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08 January 2007 @ 06:52 am
I. Roles

* Sherra aligned with the elves as (general/high priestess/authority figure)
-- Elves involvement in the war would probably be something akin to outwardly, they seem to want to make allies in humans by spreading the use of magic, especially holy magic and elemental stuff to create a stronger unified world. Underneath, it has more to do with an already dying race attempting to take power and ward off the mazoku from wiping them out. Perhaps they have some inner glorified dream about being "leader" among the rest of the races because of their superior lifespan and culture. (Can we say - Vulcans?)
* Where did the elves learn holy magic? Wouldn't the ones who know the most about holy magic be the dragons? Then again, there is nothing to say that elves did not know it as well, since they are much more ancient. And you're saying that the decision to ally themselves with the humans is for self protection from mazoku? Were they worried about mazoku finding out about their naturally holy/cleansing attributes, or was there some other reason why they already worried that the mazoku would single them out? I do like the idea of them being slightly arrogant about their own abilities and longevity by this point.
--I'm still very much caught up in making Sherra some kind of priestess, especially given the humor it would cause. The elves might look up to a war-priestess as some kind of new light forward for a mostly pacifistic race looking to further themselves or save their culture. I don't think she'd be an authority figure in the highest power, but something akin to what Mother Teresa was to the catholics (oh what a horrible analogy). In an authoritative position without any real authority...I think that's going to be Grau/Grou's thing.
She is rather awkward with it according to the novel 9 translation as well as what others on the Kanzaka board mentioned. Her as a religious figure could be very entertaining. I'm assuming that it starts off as someone else's plan to get her there? As in Dynast giving her specific instruction at first but her slowly floundering once they get cut off from reporting back? That could also explain some of her willingness to look to Xelloss for assistance, since even if she thinks that she's stronger than him, he's obviously much stronger mentally and more cunning when it comes to plans. Though, being as 'young' as this and inexperienced, maybe even he can make some good botch ups and they can flounder together.

* Xelloss aligns with human society
--My idea for Xelloss is turning him into the personal confidant of Lei Magnus, perhaps posing as an apprentice studying his researches into magic. Especially using the idea about getting Sherra "close" to Lei this would explain why the two would meet and spend any amount of time together. It would also explain how Xelloss could do large amounts of manipulating while remaining so unknown, given his unusual insight into Lei's works. It ALSO explains Xelloss occasional referring to him as an acquaintance in later events and why he would be personally given talismans, even if that took place after Lei set forth Shabby. In this instance, I should think he would try to be more cautious about appearing as a human, while Lei may hate the war, he might also be somewhat racist. Perhaps he has as prejudice against the elves, which would lift as he became more involved with them...or something.grand adviser/cleric, etc..)
*That would go along well with the ideas I had about him not being directly involved in the monarchy, and the explanation of his special treatment later in getting given a reward for his service. So, I think this idea is fairly concrete now, though we'll have to work out the details and execution. And it's uncertain. If Lei is that humanitarian would he really have something against the elves, or is it that he is wary of them because he can slightly sense their properties and he unknowingly is channeling Shabranigido's disquiet? Wouldn't this explain how he is able to get so near Sherra in the end, since she is neither elf or priest, really. XD

* Cautious treaties are formed, Xelloss and Sherra meet, recognize each other as mazoku- but not their powers.
--What if the elves themselves...their blood or their natural power, had some sort of holy or purifying effect. Not only would that give the mazoku cause to exterminate them but also the humans a reason to exploit them. It would also explain why it's somewhat cumbersome for the general and priests to report back easily. Perhaps they're trying to prevent the elves and dragons from ever becoming allied, as that would be a serious threat given these circumstances.
--DsD would probably be leading the frontal attack or the sitting duck decoy, as it were. Give the races something to feel like their fighting while the real issue goes on in their walls.
*What would the range on that holy property be? Would them massing together form like a weak holy barrier that they would have to work around or put up with? Such a thing would weaken both of them, though might not be fatal enough to cause lasting damage. Their blood just having that property wouldn't matter as much unless they're cut. They would need to have a bit of a radius on their effect, wouldn't they?

* Information trade allows for interracial turmoil without blowing cover.
--I like the idea of Xelloss being under Lei's wing. And Lei himself would probably have a lot of involvement with royalty given his breakthrough work in magic. The humans probably don't want to be told what to do by elves and may be looking for things - much like black magic - that allows them to secretly become the offensive.
*We should decide exactly what Xelloss' undercover function would be. Is he a volunteer who follows Lei? How did he convince him to 'take him under his wing'? Did he demonstrate magical 'talent' much in the same way that he cast Blast Bomb in front of Lina? And him being a 'magical' apprentice would be interesting too, since he does cast that specific spell later, and it was supposed to have been lost. The delicate part to balance is that if he's demonstrating magical talent and convinced Lei on his own, then him 'learning' and 'casting' magic like that is injuring him a little every time he does it. Not that it would kill him, but he would be in a semi-constant state of rejuvenation, especially if the elves have some sort of blanket effect on the area once Lei leaves the humans and stays with the elves.
*Also. Why does Lei stay with the elves? Could we say that Filbrizo has already begun the war between humans and he left because of that? Wanting to still be able to serve his country and protect the forces of 'good' against the oncoming threats? It's stated that Filbrizo started that particular war specifically to drive Lei. So his hate for war could have come from things that he saw right before the beginning of the story. (Don't want to totally make the sub-lords look like lazy bastards, right?)

--As for Sherra and Xelloss, perhaps it's not even possibly for them to go back at this point in time. Especially if the barrier was up but not activated, what if there was an individual seal around each lord that served the purpose of hiding their positions while effectively cutting them off?
*It could make sense, though it would imply a great amount of confidence in the abilities of their subordinates. Say that it takes a lot of time to prepare the final spell that erects the barrier, and that they are cut off in preparation for that purpose? Almost like a pre-spell that begins to set things in motion. The question is when exactly would those individual barriers become active and how long would they be out of touch of their masters? Could it be an unknown side effect of the preparation of the spell, making it an unforeseen obstacle? Sherra would have more problem than Xelloss, but they could both suffer from it, since they would be acting without the certainty of their master's approval.

II. Espionage

*How could Xelloss and Sherra appear to act towards one another as their personas?
--Given the ideas I previously mentioned, I definitely want this whole thing to have a pseudo-religious undertone, perhaps with the exception of Lei being somewhat the black sheep among his people as well as their greatest investment. As for Xelloss and Sherra's interaction, as well as secret meetings, it would be interesting to see them interact with each other in front of other people. Especially given Sherra's somewhat bumbling nature.
*Well, if you have Lei begin to stay with the elves, and have a certain affection/interest towards Sherra, then it would make sense that he would have to interact with her in official settings. Especially if things begin to get tense between them, as Xelloss is sort of mouthy and vindictive while Sherra has her temper. If we go with the old style apprenticeship theory, then Xelloss would basically be shadowing Lei most of the time. He could also have been instructed to 'protect' him by the king while they are on travel, making Lei to put up with him as a sort of body guard? Of course, that would be a silly notion, as Lei would definitely not think that he needed protecting, and Xelloss is definitely not trying to keep him safe. Though, a King might appoint someone to protect him as a matter of formality, and if Xelloss is the only one Lei would tolerate accompanying him, then the King might order such a thing out of formality.

*How do they meet in secret?
--This is especially where the other priests/generals come in to play. I still haven't decided what specific role that Grau/Grou has or how anyone else comes into play. My ideas for Phibrizzo's minions are running somewhat with making sure there's no elf/dragon pact. Given the volatile nature of that standing, it could explain why the get killed. DsD's would be running around causing havoc, I guess somewhat explaining their longevity and obscurity. Gaav's minions perhaps are somewhat more directly involved with their master, as he's the running headpiece for the front attack. As for other characters besides this group, I'm sorta stuck. Would mazoku even WANT to interact with others unless they had to?
*Grau/Grou is going to be particularly hard to find a purpose for given their special brand of talent and crazy. Fibrizo's minions dealing with the dragons in the beginning does make a good amount of sense, as well as their ruin. How powerful would the golden dragons be at this point, given how easily Xelloss managed to destroy them? Most of them seem to be at around the same magical capacity as a powerful human. Not nearly as powerful as Lina, though they still have the power of Ragradia to call upon so they can use Holy magic against them. Physically, they are very powerful, though that doesn't matter much against a mazoku. Gaav's minions could be tasked with something closer to home, since Gaav is not an active player till the end. It would also explain THEIR surviving the war.
And maybe a mazoku wouldn't want to interact with the other races on a normal basis, though the main story is going to be Xel an Sherra who will be forced to interact to keep face. I'm imagining we'll see mostly snippets or hear reports about what the others are doing rather than actually following them around for any reason. Only the actions of the sub-lords would really merit that. The rest can be given in almost a news format for the sake of Xelloss and Sherra knowing what is going on in the big picture. The main interaction will most definitely be between Xelloss, Sherra and Lei Magnus for the first half of the story, but we do need to make supporting characters for them to interact with and be more interesting. Xelloss seems amused by the antics of mortals, that might begin here, especially as he gains respect for Lei.


*Dynast/Zelas' roles?
--Considering their inability to move, and the possibility I previously mentioned about individual seals, would they really be able to interact at all? At least during the first part of the story. Maybe they come more into the light after the main plan goes into action.
*This is the modified time line I'm seeing in my mind thus far.
-2. Lei Magnus becoming a well known forefront in magical development
-1. Fibrizo beginning the war between humans as he suspects Lei holding a piece of Shabranigido and wants to use the horrors of war against him
0. The creation of the Generals and Priests
1. Instructing of their roles
2. The plans of the subordinates begin to be set in motion as they take their places (Sherra carries out her plans as instructed by Dynast to become looked up to by the elves- Xelloss worms his way into the human's monarchy.
a. DsD's minions begin the random attacks that further confuse the already waring human populace.
3. Xelloss gains the trust and interest of Lei Magnus and decides to leave to (study?) with the elves.
a. The pride of the elves begins to fail in the face of the possible threat of the mazoku striking in the war.
4. Preparation of the barrier complete, individual barriers go up in the beginning stages of the spell, either deliberate or not.
5. With the loss of communication to the lords with the exception of Gaav, the strategic roles of all of the subordinates falters and becomes more clumsy on some fronts as the priests and generals have to step up and make their own decisions.

And I'm not sure beyond that. I wonder if we should say where the dragons are at this point, or just leave them a mystery till the end. It does say that they did not get involved until it was made absolutely clear that the wars went far beyond just the humans and elves. Basically by the time they get their horns out their ass it's too late.
Also, I'm not completely sure where the story will go from there, though that alone is enough to keep us busy for over a year. The rest of the events are known, just not the order or any additional things that we want to happen. I would imagine that the experiments on the elves takes place shortly after, which may mean that either Lei or Xelloss would have to make the trip back to the human kingdom in order to manipulate the king into beginning the magical experiments. Perhaps Lei invites Sherra as a sort of emissary for the elves? The beast man could follow them there, though humans are definitely more prejudice. No one seems to like the beast races though.


*What sort of conflicts/treaties do they form between races?
--I'm almost toying with the idea about creating a character that would last at least a few chapters that is a representative of the beast race. One that is distrustful and smells something fishy about Xelloss even. I can't think of anything to do with the Dwarves other than have them be the main suppliers. I'm really looking to this angle about the somewhat apocalyptic dragon/elf alliance. How come they never mention each other?
*Smells something fishy in the Beast Priest, eh? Also, for mazoku with animalistic beastial forms, how much do those forms affect them? Zelas is described as keen, while I made Xelloss' beast form with multiple eyes to match his purpose. Would the effects of that have any baring on them? In the novels, Xelloss is ruthless and efficient. He doesn't play with his prey except mentally. I've always slightly wondered at that since that level of efficiency seems a bit odd in the midst of the rest of the mazoku who do give their monologues and try to torment their prey before killing. That could be indicative of the wolf as well and would imply that Zelas would have the same mentality. But what about other animalistic behaviors? I know this is sort of a random question, but it just came to mind. Especially given that they chose Gaav for the special properties of his beast form, which implies that they are not willfully chosen and that they give them different attributes.
How would such a thing effect Sherra?
And I'm liking the idea of a beast man who is suspicious of them. I wonder if Mazoku have a different scent. Truth be told, they're mazoku and their physical appearances are in some ways illusionary. Would they have a scent at all? Perhaps it is dulled? The higher mazoku CAN mimic human physiology though, as Kanzaka said that they could even mimic the internal organs of a humanoid (work with that for your hentai side stories. XD)but I would imagine that it would be different to a beast man who might have a nose strong enough to smell the differences on a chemical level.
 
 
08 January 2007 @ 12:22 am
II. Turning Points

*Sherra discovers something about the elves that makes them a commodity (Power source/Magical Properties/Weapons)
a. What would interest humans enough for them to go beyond all morals? (with Xelloss' help)
This makes a point to define more about the elves: What would make them threatening enough to the mazoku? I believe that they should not have a very strong astral presence - perhaps the same as a human- but perhaps have a higher level of awareness of that plane. The elves in Slayers world seem very similar to others. Would that include powers of song (magical), nature magic and awareness and communication?

--Again, what about their essence, or blood, or something or whatever being something of a natural neutralizer? It would definitely make them dangerous. The other real questions is, whatever it IS, how does Sherra find out about it? Does it have anything to do with her involvement with Lei and/or her perceived demise to him?

Is there the possibly that something could be done to the elves, through magical experimentation and torture that could make them or their blood like an enhancer for humans? Perhaps in that way, the blood can be changed so that drinking it- or some less bloody form of essence would be able to increase the inane magic pool for humans? In this way, these manipulations done by Xelloss and Sherra to defeat the elves would eventually lead to more powerful humans such as Lina and Gourry. Which would also imply that they had rather violent ancestors. XD
--Maybe as a shift of power, the natural neutralizer the elves possess, when it's exploited weakens the elf race but strengthens the humans. It would explain why the elves had gone into hiding and interaction with them seemed somewhat taboo. Especially considering if it wasn't just mazoku the power affected.

*Humans are slowly gaining power, Xelloss somehow influencing the assimilation of technologies?
a. Perhaps the above would work? Technology advanced much more outside of the demon barrier- perhaps indicating that the ryuzoku clans outside saw what had happened and withdrew from allying with the human races? This is slightly implied with the fact that Saichiro in Try knew the events of the Koma war, though he obviously was not there. Because they couldn't get into the barrier does not concretely imply that they weren't aware of what was happening.

--I'm starting to back off the technology idea and focus more on the magical element because all of our plot points are leading here. The creation of the claire bible, the expansion of knowledge pertaining to all forms of magic and the power that the elves possess. Especially how much later Xelloss seemed to know about the workings of magic despite not using it in the sense that the races do. I might just scrap the technology thing at this point in the story.

*Humans acquire knowledge about the 'elvish commodity', due to Sherra?
a. I think that Xelloss using this information to influence the humans makes more sense for several reasons. He is the one who is in direct contact with them, manipulating them. Sherra, having never worked with humans, would not have any confidence in their abilities as she would see them as less than dirt. Perhaps Xelloss begins to realize the power of the human spirit and how that can be turned to destruction.

--Xelloss empathizing with humans has always been an angle I want to work with. But if Sherra really did involve herself with Lei, would it disgust her? And would Xelloss get somewhat less attached to humans if he was in fact jealous of Lei? I still wonder whose hands the blood of the elves mostly rests on here.

*Experiments kept secret, but rumors raise elf fears. Panic slowly setting in.
a. Given the actions of Riksfalto using lesser demons to barrage the great majority of the people, the ignorance and arrogance of the dragons to not keep the other races in the know, and the tensions starting for the elves, everyone is probably about to panic by this point. Perhaps Xelloss arranges for a surviving elf to be able to escape? Bringing horrible depictions to the elves in a more direct fashion?

--This is the point where I need a turning plot. There's gotta be some big event that breaks out with Lei before the lead attack upon the water dragon king. This is going to take some more serious thought. Assuming I'm working with the idea of Sherra being involved with Lei, and leaking info about elves to the humans through Xelloss or whatever, her being found out at this point could cause some cataclysmic events. As just a very unfleshed idea, here's what I'm thinking: Perhaps the aforementioned distrustful beast man is doing some investigating into Sherra and Lei's relationship and unwittingly comes across the mazoku plot hidden beneath. Xelloss in a spur of the moment act of tact (or perhaps this whole thing is staged?), removes his suspicion from the picture by pointing the finger at Sherra as some kind of traitor and fueling some rage. Beast man leads an on the moment attempt on her life wherein he uses the elven power that supposedly is secret (perhaps involving a hapless bystander as "fuel") and damages Sherra for real, but Lei walks in and assumes she's just been assassinated and wipes out beast guy before he can reveal the truth. Tensions would rise immediately between humans and elves in this manner as some sort of political assassination plot, especially if Sherra were seen as some kind of ornamental figurehead, and give Lei more incentive to use elves as war tools. His sanity at this point becomes unrolled, perhaps this is not the first he's lost to this conflict? Xelloss at this point might reveal to phib's minions about the nature of the elven power which begins the assault on the dragons to tear alliance between those two apart. At this point, Sherra would be somewhat in the background to recover, she might not reappear until closer to the final battle so that Lei doesn't figure it out. Grau/Grou's role here might reach it's peak before he gets wiped out. This is as far as I can think for the skeleton of this idea, but it's something to work with.

III. Relating

* Lei Magnus introduced, still relatively normal human. Distrusts (other and own races). Trusts in Xelloss?
a. Perhaps Lei Magnus can start as the adviser to the King that Xelloss communicates to and gains the trust of? This would partially make a lot of the things happen his fault, so that by the time he leaves his position in disgust of the war some of that hatred could be towards himself since it would ultimately have been his fault despite his efforts to create peace and protect people. I do not, however, believe that he should be directly involved with the magical experimentation of the elves. Perhaps Xelloss finds a human much more capable of the job, as Lei is nearly described as starting off as a sort of pacifist hating the cruelty of war.
Is there anything that states that he was a strong magic user, other than his eventually creating the Dragon Slave? I would assume that he created that close to having the seal broken? It was semi-implied that it was during some form of battle that whoever he had cared for had suffered and died (elf or human?) and perhaps that is the point where the seal breaks? Perhaps his creating the Dragon Slave, which calls upon the power of the Ma-o trapped inside of himself breaks the seal in the casting?

--I'm still not sure on my stance with him, maybe he doesn't get directly involved with it until later. Having his "lover" killed off certainly might make him more violent. Obviously the piece of Shabby in him might have a lot to do with his dissolving pacifism. This in itself might increase his magical capacity and lead the way to him creating dragon slave and blast bomb.

*Does Xelloss speak half-truths that win the cynical heart of Lei into trusting him?
a. Xelloss nearly always speaks in half truths and excluded information, though he is not generally one to directly lie and rather lets others make up their own minds on what they think. Could being among humans so much begin a slight amount of respect for the race, or at least Lei Magnus? While he sees humans as beneath him later, he does not seem to hold the contempt that many mazoku have for them, though they are still his prey. Perhaps this could lead to both honesty that wins Lei Magnus as well as seeing a depth of Xelloss' observation and character that would not otherwise be possible? Xelloss would, if nothing else, respect THIS human for being the vessel of their lord?

--I think in some small way, Xelloss would actually become friends with Lei in similar to the manner he did with Lina. Respectful, but not above manipulating. Certainly with a healthier fear of him though, as he does contain Shabby. It might become a bit sour if Lei gets involved with Sherra though, it certainly would make for a conflict of interest in Xelloss if he's supposed to being furthering Lei.

*Lei's magical research (knowingly/unknowingly) involves the use of elves?
a. For some reason, I'd rather create another character who does that. Someone more sinister/obsessive and arrogant, who would be blind to the manipulation and power hungry enough to execute the experimentation.

--Perhaps even the leader and/or king (at least one of) the humans? Lei sure would be pissed to know he was serving an asshole.

*What is Lei's factional standpoint? Why does he create so many powerful attack spells? Why does he hate war?
a. *Looks up some info on Lei Magnus* ...hrm. Ok, so he used dragon slave first to destroy an arc dragon? When does this happen? I still like the idea that casting Dragon Slave is when the seal breaks, even if it isn't what leads up to it. Where does he get the demons blood talismans? What if the seal then broke when he casted a BOOSTED Dragon Slave?
b. Lei only began to hate humans after he saw the horror that they could inflict on one another when the war amongst humans happened. If this is partially his fault due to Xelloss' manipulations that he is unaware of, he could have been very loyal to his own race and country previous to this, but left in disgust as things became more and more violent in times of war. As his hatred begins to grow for both his race and himself, the seal on Sabranigido could begin to crack creating the higher capacity for spells? Why does he create the Blast Bomb?

--So would Lei actually leave the humans or stay under them? It would be really odd if he was slowly assimilated into the mazoku group with or without knowing who they were and whether or not he was being manipulated, I need to figure out his motivation at this point.

*Hints of Ruby Eye Awakening.

*Where's Sherra?!
a. Having hot elf sex with Xelloss, of course.

No comment.

*Is Lei being used to make spells? Does he have a hissy knowing about the elf thing?
a. This depends on the answers to many of my previous questions about Lei's relationship with the elves. By the time this is brought to light, he might already have began to be consumed by his hatred for his own race for what they have done to themselves.

--I'm thinking by this point in the story, he might be doing it himself. I dunno.

IV. Mazoku Half-Time

*Do the ma'ou other than Filbrizo have a role here?
a. As the barrier should already be in place to prevent the interference of the other shinzoku or ryuzoku clans, I think that Fibby is going to be stuck in his desert and acting in proxy through his minions as well as keeping the other sub-lords in their own roles. He would probably also be working through/instructing Gaav on what he had to do next.

--The Gaav/Phibrizzo angle is a good one to touch with here. Gaav really really hates Phibrizzo in next beyond what he stands for as a mazoku. There could be room in here for some explanations why. Is Phibrizzo a particularly abusive commander? He's very good at scheming but what about his people skills? XD Maybe even his own minions hate his guts. He may just be treating Gaav like cannon fodder.

* Fibrizo sets his plan into motion. His schemes are explained in detail.
a. To who?

--Probably as a plot device, to Gaav.

*Are Xelloss and Sherra somehow involved together here?
a. Would there be a reason, after the retreat of the elves, and the now self sustaining war amongst humans for them to still be working together?

--It's somewhat possibly, I suppose, in the absence of being able to get to her master and Grau/Grou being indisposed, is she still needing to recover at this point? Maybe she's half looking to Xel for guidance, especially if she's realized how powerful he is at this point. Not sure.
b. Do they travel together to whatever convergence point the final battle takes place at?
--Perhaps they start out to, but end up either detached or sidetracked by something they discover on the ryuuzoku side of the story.
c. Is Sherra also instructed to attack the dragons that Xelloss so easily destroys?
--I'm sorta going on the idea she's ruined before this attack happens, it'd be even more meaningful if she was destroyed by dragons and Xelloss gets his opportunity to take it out on them here.
d. Who is she eventually ruined by? Set up for that event should happen now.
--My guess - Dragons. Maybe a high level one. It'd be horribly ironic.

*What's going on with them crazy humans and elves?
a. The elves should be gone by now. Withdrawing from the war.

--Agreed. They're mostly toast by this point.
b. Humans are preoccupied with themselves, so that no help will come with the dragons when they finally get in gear.
--Maybe they're involved in a civil war at this point that was partially orchestrated so that they're oblivious, I think the focus in the later half of this story is switching more to the Dragons and whatever mysterious role they play here.
 
 
07 January 2007 @ 10:31 pm
I. Roles

* Sherra aligns with the elves as (general/high priestess/authority figure)
a. Do elves have generals, or are they mostly peaceful only joining the war out of necessity? (possible humor could ensue with a slightly bumbling- straightforward and temperamental Sherra having to pose as a priestess. Does Dynast enjoy putting her in positions that are unsuited to her?)

-- Elves involvement in the war would probably be something akin to outwardly, they seem to want to make allies in humans by spreading the use of magic, especially holy magic and elemental stuff to create a stronger unified world. Underneath, it has more to do with an already dying race attempting to take power and ward off the mazoku from wiping them out. Perhaps they have some inner glorified dream about being "leader" among the rest of the races because of their superior lifespan and culture. (Can we say - Vulcans?)
--I'm still very much caught up in making Sherra some kind of priestess, especially given the humor it would cause. The elves might look up to a war-priestess as some kind of new light forward for a mostly pacifistic race looking to further themselves or save their culture. I don't think she'd be an authority figure in the highest power, but something akin to what Mother Teresa was to the catholics (oh what a horrible analogy). In an authoritative position without any real authority...I think that's going to be Grau/Grou's thing.

* Xelloss aligns with humans as (pope/grand adviser/cleric, etc..)
a. Seriously... pope?
I get it!
b. Given Xelloss' love of subterfuge, would he be so direct as to disguise himself in the middle of the humans in such a way? Or would it be more likely for him to chose an outlet that would let him manipulate a wider number of humans while remaining generally unknown?
c. Filbrizo's priest and general perhaps also working to manipulate the humans in this (the largest) and other human countries? (It IS said that Filbrizo starts the war amongst humans)

--My idea for Xelloss is turning him into the personal confidant of Lei Magnus, perhaps posing as an apprentice studying his researches into magic. Especially using the idea about getting Sherra "close" to Lei this would explain why the two would meet and spend any amount of time together. It would also explain how Xelloss could do large amounts of manipulating while remaining so unknown, given his unusual insight into Lei's works. It ALSO explains Xelloss occasional referring to him as an acquaintance in later events and why he would be personally given talismans, even if that took place after Lei set forth Shabby. In this instance, I should think he would try to be more cautious about appearing as a human, while Lei may hate the war, he might also be somewhat racist. Perhaps he has as prejudice against the elves, which would lift as he became more involved with them...or something.

* Cautious treaties are formed, Xelloss and Sherra meet, recognize each other as mazoku- but not their powers.
a. Could the elves have some form of defense that dulls the mazoku's senses, restricts their astral abilities, etc? Why would they be seen as threatening enough for the mazoku to want to destroy BEFORE the final battle that would justify them taking action against them (mazoku pride)?
b. Perhaps DsD's general- in her straightforward ways could be overseeing the chaos of the lesser demons attacking to cause tension at this point?

--What if the elves themselves...their blood or their natural power, had some sort of holy or purifying effect. Not only would that give the mazoku cause to exterminate them but also the humans a reason to exploit them. It would also explain why it's somewhat cumbersome for the general and priests to report back easily. Perhaps they're trying to prevent the elves and dragons from ever becoming allied, as that would be a serious threat given these circumstances.
--DsD would probably be leading the frontal attack or the sitting duck decoy, as it were. Give the races something to feel like their fighting while the real issue goes on in their walls.

* Information trade allows for interracial turmoil without blowing cover.
a. Perhaps Xelloss could be an informant TO the king's grand adviser? Almost like a hired mercenary scout? Xelloss choses to not keep a perfect human form (why is that, anyway?) and he is extremely arrogant towards humans- it would make more sense given his cunning and intelligence for him to NOT be on such display as a human figurehead. If he is a behind the scenes informant (somehow making himself extremely trusted?), then that would give him much flexibility to go amongst enemies as well as between the humans and the elves.
b. Why do Sherra and Xelloss begin to trade information in this manner? Would they not report directly to their superiors? Are there events or circumstances that keep them from being able to do such a thing, forcing them to rely on one another?

--I like the idea of Xelloss being under Lei's wing. And Lei himself would probably have a lot of involvement with royalty given his breakthrough work in magic. The humans probably don't want to be told what to do by elves and may be looking for things - much like black magic - that allows them to secretly become the offensive.
--As for Sherra and Xelloss, perhaps it's not even possibly for them to go back at this point in time. Especially if the barrier was up but not activated, what if there was an individual seal around each lord that served the purpose of hiding their positions while effectively cutting them off?

II. Espionage

How could Xelloss and Sherra appear to act towards one another as their personas?
a. There are several possibilities: In the case that Xelloss DOES become a human figurehead, if he is made a cleric or religiously driven adviser to the king, he could proclaim to be interested in or studying the elves culturally or religiously.
In the case that he becomes a behind the scenes informant: He would have to keep from being seen largely during Human/Elvish negotiations- after that, he could meet Sherra in private to discuss their orders and how to coordinate. This could lead to a lot of humor and perhaps some rivalry. If he is seen by elves at all (back to the 'why are they threatening' discussion) and is assumed to be human, then there could be scandal at the 'High Priestess Sherra' and accusations that she is having relations with a human. (Would the elves care?) Sherra could do such things as have Xelloss thrown in jail and they could generally both help and annoy the absolute piss out of one another.

--Given the ideas I previously mentioned, I definitely want this whole thing to have a pseudo-religious undertone, perhaps with the exception of Lei being somewhat the black sheep among his people as well as their greatest investment. As for Xelloss and Sherra's interaction, as well as secret meetings, it would be interesting to see them interact with each other in front of other people. Especially given Sherra's somewhat bumbling nature.

*How do they meet in secret?
a. There would need to be supporting characters to both add humor and more relatable elements as well as add danger to their meeting in secret. Would the elves have ways to detect mazoku if they use their power? If so, would they be restricted to more human modes of espionage? They could enlist other mazoku (too risky) or trick other elves/humans into helping them for whatever reason.
b.Why would they need to have frequent secret meetings?

--This is especially where the other priests/generals come in to play. I still haven't decided what specific role that Grau/Grou has or how anyone else comes into play. My ideas for Phibrizzo's minions are running somewhat with making sure there's no elf/dragon pact. Given the volatile nature of that standing, it could explain why the get killed. DsD's would be running around causing havoc, I guess somewhat explaining their longevity and obscurity. Gaav's minions perhaps are somewhat more directly involved with their master, as he's the running headpiece for the front attack. As for other characters besides this group, I'm sorta stuck. Would mazoku even WANT to interact with others unless they had to?

*Dynast/Zelas' roles?
a. What preparation is needed in constructing the soon to be erected demon barrier?
b. Given Zelas' and DsD's appearance in the novels, what if they often worked well together? Especially with the proximity of Wolf Pack Island to the Dead Sea. Given that I have already suggested that Riksfalto be in charge of the attacks conducted by the lesser demons (probably a terribly annoying job given their intelligence...) and that these attacks would be mostly directed at humans as Fibrizo instructed, then they could all be focusing on that. DsD's Priest Huraker (rumored name) could be filling a roll similar to his own within another human country.
c. Dynast seems like the type to not get directly involved in things too often (We'll probably have to start the story shortly after the placement of the demon barrier, since the creation of the priests and generals is so directly related to it?). Given that he has Sherra doing undercover work with the elves, the question then is what is Grou/Grau doing?

--Considering their inability to move, and the possibility I previously mentioned about individual seals, would they really be able to interact at all? At least during the first part of the story. Maybe they come more into the light after the main plan goes into action.

*What sort of conflicts/treaties do they form between races?
a. A tentative alliance between the humans and elves seems likely. Do they finish the treaty before the magical experiments are brought to light? Do these events eventually lead to the formation of the sorcerer's guild and the placement of moral rules within the realm of magical study?
b. Dwarves/Beast Races/etc: Would they form treaties with humans? Less likely. Perhaps trade agreements for the dwarves and peace treaties for these less powerful races.

--I'm almost toying with the idea about creating a character that would last at least a few chapters that is a representative of the beast race. One that is distrustful and smells something fishy about Xelloss even. I can't think of anything to do with the Dwarves other than have them be the main suppliers. I'm really looking to this angle about the somewhat apocalyptic dragon/elf alliance. How come they never mention each other?
 
 
07 January 2007 @ 10:40 am
I. Roles

*Sherra aligns with the elves as (general/high priestess/authority figure)
a. Do elves have generals, or are they mostly peaceful only joining the war out of necessity? (possible humor could ensue with a slightly bumbling- straightforward and temperamental Sherra having to pose as a priestess. Does Dynast enjoy putting her in positions that are unsuited to her?)

* Xelloss aligns with humans as (pope/grand advisor/cleric, etc..)
a. Seriously... pope?
b. Given Xelloss' love of subterfuge, would he be so direct as to disguise himself in the middle of the humans in such a way? Or would it be more likely for him to chose an outlet that would let him manipulate a wider number of humans while remaining generally unknown?
c. Filbrizo's priest and general perhaps also working to manipulate the humans in this (the largest) and other human countries? (It IS said that Filbrizo starts the war amongst humans)


* Cautious treaties are formed, Xelloss and Sherra meet, recognize each other as mazoku- but not their powers.
a. Could the elves have some form of defense that dulls the mazoku's senses, restricts their astral abilities, etc? Why would they be seen as threatening enough for the mazoku to want to destroy BEFORE the final battle that would justify them taking action against them (mazoku pride)?
b. Perhaps DsD's general- in her straightforward ways could be overseeing the chaos of the lesser demons attacking to cause tension at this point?


* Information trade allows for interactial turmoil without blowing cover.
a. Perhaps Xelloss could be an informant TO the king's grand advisor? Almost like a hired mercenary scout? Xelloss choses to not keep a perfect human form (why is that, anyway?) and he is extremely arrogant towards humans- it would make more sense given his cunning and intelligence for him to NOT be on such display as a human figurehead. If he is a behind the scenes informant (somehow making himself extremely trusted?), then that would give him much flexibility to go amongst enemies as well as between the humans and the elves.
b. Why do Sherra and Xelloss begin to trade information in this manner? Would they not report directly to their superiors? Are there events or circumstances that keep them from being able to do such a thing, forcing them to rely on one another?


II. Espionage

How could Xelloss and Sherra appear to act towards one another as their personas?
a. There are several possibilities: In the case that Xelloss DOES become a human figurehead, if he is made a cleric or religiously driven adviser to the king, he could proclaim to be interested in or studying the elves culturally or religiously.
In the case that he becomes a behind the scenes informant: He would have to keep from being seen largely during Human/Elvish negotiations- after that, he could meet Sherra in private to discuss their orders and how to coordinate. This could lead to a lot of humor and perhaps some rivalry. If he is seen by elves at all (back to the 'why are they threatening' discussion) and is assumed to be human, then there could be scandal at the 'High Priestess Sherra' and accusations that she is having relations with a human. (Would the elves care?) Sherra could do such things as have Xelloss thrown in jail and they could generally both help and annoy the absolute piss out of one another.


*How do they meet in secret?
a. There would need to be supporting characters to both add humor and more relatable elements as well as add danger to their meeting in secret. Would the elves have ways to detect mazoku if they use their power? If so, would they be restricted to more human modes of espionage? They could enlist other mazoku (too risky) or trick other elves/humans into helping them for whatever reason.
b.Why would they need to have frequent secret meetings?


*Dynast/Zelas' roles?
a. What preperation is needed in constructing the soon to be erected demon barrier?
b. Given Zelas' and DsD's appearance in the novels, what if they often worked well together? Especially with the proximity of Wolf Pack Island to the Dead Sea. Given that I have already suggested that Riksfalto be in charge of the attacks conducted by the lesser demons (probably a terribly annoying job given their intelligence...) and that these attacks would be mostly directed at humans as Fibrizo instructed, then they could all be focusing on that. DsD's Priest Huraker (rumored name) could be filling a roll similar to his own within another human country.
c. Dynast seems like the type to not get directly involved in things too often (We'll probably have to start the story shortly after the placement of the demon barrier, since the creation of the priests and generals is so directly related to it?). Given that he has Sherra doing undercover work with the elves, the question then is what is Grou/Grau doing?


*What sort of conflicts/treaties do they form between races?
a. A tentative alliance between the humans and elves seems likely. Do they finish the treaty before the magical experiments are brought to light? Do these events eventually lead to the formation of the sorcerer's guild and the placement of moral rules within the realm of magical study?
b. Dwarves/Beast Races/etc: Would they form treaties with humans? Less likely. Perhaps trade agreements for the dwarves and peace treaties for these less powerful races.


II. Turning Points

*Sherra discovers something about the elves that makes them a commodity (Power source/Magical Properties/Weapons)
a. What would interest humans enough for them to go beyond all morals? (with Xelloss' help)

This makes a point to define more about the elves: What would make them threatening enough to the mazoku? I believe that they should not have a very strong astral presence - perhaps the same as a human- but perhaps have a higher level of awareness of that plane. The elves in Slayers world seem very similar to others. Would that include powers of song (magical), nature magic and awareness and communication?

Is there the possibly that something could be done to the elves, through magical experimentation and torture that could make them or their blood like an enhancer for humans? Perhaps in that way, the blood can be changed so that drinking it- or some less bloody form of essence would be able to increase the inane magic pool for humans? In this way, these manipulations done by Xelloss and Sherra to defeat the elves would eventually lead to more powerful humans such as Lina and Gourry. Which would also imply that they had rather violent ancestors. XD


*Humans are slowly gaining power, Xelloss somehow influencing the assimilation of technologies?
a. Perhaps the above would work? Technology advanced much more outside of the demon barrier- perhaps indicating that the ryuzoku clans outside saw what had happened and withdrew from allying with the human races? This is slightly implied with the fact that Saichiro in Try knew the events of the Koma war, though he obviously was not there. Because they couldn't get into the barrier does not concretely imply that they weren't aware of what was happening.

*Humans aquire knowledge about the 'elvish commodity', due to Sherra?
a. I think that Xelloss using this information to influence the humans makes more sense for several reasons. He is the one who is in direct contact with them, manipulating them. Sherra, having never worked with humans, would not have any confidence in their abilities as she would see them as less than dirt. Perhaps Xelloss begins to realize the power of the human spirit and how that can be turned to distruction.

*Experiments kept secret, but rumors raise elf fears. Panic slowly setting in.
a. Given the actions of Riksfalto using lesser demons to barrage the great majority of the people, the ignorance and arrogance of the dragons to not keep the other races in the know, and the tensions starting for the elves, everyone is probably about to panic by this point. Perhaps Xelloss arranges for a surviving elf to be able to escape? Bringing horrible depictions to the elves in a more direct fashion?

III. Relating

* Lei Magnus introduced, still relatively normal human. Distrusts (other and own races). Trusts in Xelloss?
a. Perhaps Lei Magnus can start as the adviser to the King that Xelloss communicates to and gains the trust of? This would partially make a lot of the things happen his fault, so that by the time he leaves his position in disgust of the war some of that hatred could be towards himself since it would ultimately have been his fault despite his efforts to create peace and protect people. I do not, however, believe that he should be directly involved with the magical experimentation of the elves. Perhaps Xelloss finds a human much more capable of the job, as Lei is nearly described as starting off as a sort of pacifist hating the cruelty of war.
Is there anything that states that he was a strong magic user, other than his eventually creating the Dragon Slave? I would assume that he created that close to having the seal broken? It was semi-implied that it was during some form of battle that whoever he had cared for had suffered and died (elf or human?) and perhaps that is the point where the seal breaks? Perhaps his creating the Dragon Slave, which calls upon the power of the Ma-o trapped inside of himself breaks the seal in the casting?


*Does Xelloss speak half-truths that win the cynical heart of Lei into trusting him?
a. Xelloss nearly always speaks in half truths and excluded information, though he is not generally one to directly lie and rather lets others make up their own minds on what they think. Could being among humans so much begin a slight amount of respect for the race, or at least Lei Magnus? While he sees humans as beneath him later, he does not seem to hold the contempt that many mazoku have for them, though they are still his prey. Perhaps this could lead to both honesty that wins Lei Magnus as well as seeing a depth of Xelloss' observation and character that would not otherwise be possible? Xelloss would, if nothing else, respect THIS human for being the vessel of their lord?

*Lei's magical research (knowingly/unknowingly) involves the use of elves?
a. For some reason, I'd rather create another character who does that. Someone more sinister/obsessive and arrogant, who would be blind to the manipulation and power hungry enough to execute the experimentation.

*What is Lei's factional standpoint? Why does he create so many powerful attack spells? Why does he hate war?
a. *Looks up some info on Lei Magnus* ...hrm. Ok, so he used dragon slave first to destroy an arc dragon? When does this happen? I still like the idea that casting Dragon Slave is when the seal breaks, even if it isn't what leads up to it. Where does he get the demons blood talismans? What if the seal then broke when he casted a BOOSTED Dragon Slave?
b. Lei only began to hate humans after he saw the horror that they could inflict on one another when the war amongst humans happened. If this is partially his fault due to Xelloss' manipulations that he is unaware of, he could have been very loyal to his own race and country previous to this, but left in disgust as things became more and more violent in times of war. As his hatred begins to grow for both his race and himself, the seal on Sabranigido could begin to crack creating the higher capacity for spells? Why does he create the Blast Bomb?


*Hints of Ruby Eye Awakening.

*Where's Sherra?!
a. Having hot elf sex with Xelloss, of course.

*Is Lei being used to make spells? Does he have a hissy knowing about the elf thing?
a. This depends on the answers to many of my previous questions about Lei's relationship with the elves. By the time this is brought to light, he might already have began to be consumed by his hatred for his own race for what they have done to themselves.

IV. Mazoku Half-Time

*Do the ma'ou other than Filbrizo have a role here?
a. As the barrier should already be in place to prevent the interference of the other shinzoku or ryuzoku clans, I think that Fibby is going to be stuck in his desert and acting in proxy through his minions as well as keeping the other sub-lords in their own roles. He would probably also be working through/instructing Gaav on what he had to do next.

*Fibrizo sets his plan into motion. His schemes are explained in detail.
a. To who?

*Are Xelloss and Sherra somehow involved together here?
a. Would there be a reason, after the retreat of the elves, and the now self sustaining war amongst humans for them to still be working together?
b. Do they travel together to whatever convergence point the final battle takes place at?
c. Is Sherra also instructed to attack the dragons that Xellos so easily destroys?
d. Who is she eventually ruined by? Set up for that event should happen now.


*What's going on with them crazy humans and elves?
a. The elves should be gone by now. Withdrawing from the war.
b. Humans are preoccupied with themselves, so that no help will come with the dragons when they finally get in gear.





Seriously.. pope? What were you thinking!
 
 
07 January 2007 @ 10:36 am
Major Points

I. Lesser demon attacks are used as a distraction; humans, elves, dwarves and dragons form and alliance against the threat. Civil clashes.
a. Unrest?
b. Sherra causing havok turning humans into lesser demons?
c. How many generals and priests are involved?
d. Before the knowledge of the creation of the priests and generals became known?


II. Humans gain social structure and learn about magic from the elves- weapon-making from the dwarves- Holy power & Protection from the dragons.
a. Humans already in established monarchies?
b. How many kingdoms?
c. This time period to become the height of holy magic among humans, before being lost once the barrier locked out the shinzoku?


III. Lei Magnus hated the uprising of arms which awoke the hatred in him that turned out to be the seed of Shabranigido.
a. Who is Lei Magnus in terms of alliance and purpose?
b. At least as powerful at Rezo, but what public function does he serve?
c. Is it related to his friend/lover who is gravely tormented and killed in the war (the final straw)?


IV. Filbrizo's true purpose is revealed: The resurrection of Shabranigido and the attack of the Suiryu'ou at Katart.
a. What was the function that Fibrizo's priest and general served?
b. What put them in direct danger of being ruined?
c. Gaav with Fibrizo during this time, or is he somewhere else (Trump card)?


V. Something provokes a mass uprising of arms against a surge of demons- elves discover they have been used in magical experiments (by humans?) and are almost exterminated.
Lei Magnus awakens as Ruby Eye.
a. Are these related? Is Lei Magnus' friend/lover an elf? (random possibility: Could Sherra have been instructed to 'get close' to him and become a decoy for those feelings? Is that even worth the effort? How 'detached' is Lei Magnus from others?)
b. Xelloss/Sherra at the head of convincing humans to conduct these experiments?
c. Pride of the Dragons: Were they busy with something else at this time (trying to convince the Ancients to participate for example) or was it their pride as greater beings that turned a blind eye to what was happening among the other races?


VI. While war rages, Filbrizo sets up the demon barrier, triggers the frontal attack on Katart using Gaav and teh ma'ou's armies. Many temples and followers slain.
a. At which point does the shinzoku Ragradia finally appear to defend his followers? Was Gaav distracting him while his worshipers were reduced to weaken him?
b. What has become of the human armies and war that was started by Fibrizo's command as a distraction? Does the final (likely long) battle shake them from their own foolishness?
c. Are Fibrizo's priest and general ruined in this final battle? What was their purpose?


VII. The resisting army is lead by dragons, most of whom are exterminated by Priest Xelloss. Fibrizo's priest and general are also ruined. (Dynast's too)
a. Humans weakened by their own civil wars beyond the point where they could help?
b. Elves retreat into self-preserving exile (makes most sense before the beginning of the true war)? What happens to the dwarves and other lesser magical races? (Beastmen, etc?)
c. Who manages to destroy the priests and generals? Is this when Ragradia finally appears to fight? Who else would have the power required to ruin them? Xelloss escapes?


VIII. Suiryu'ou defeats Gaav, seals his soul(astral body?) in a human body and dies. Shinzoku's power is lost to the world (within the barrier).
a. Suiryu'ou also uses his final power to freeze Lei Magnus in time (forever?)
b. The barrier is kept up, why? To defend against the other shinzoku? Would they seek revenge?


IX. Alliance disolves, elves go into exile (see above for recommended time for this?). Dwarves: unknown. Dragons form secluded temples and humans start their domination. Mazoku retreat and begin their scheming again.
a. Is it at this time that Filbrizo decides to wait for one who can call upon the power of the Golden Lord?
b. Is there some form of protection harbored within the Katart mountains that protects the remains of the Water Dragon Clan?
c. How is the Claire Bible discovered? How does it get scattered? How is it discovered to be a threat to mazoku?
Long shot: Could the Claire Bible be used to resurrect Sherra, even by accident?